you all know i do not do long posts. and i understand if you move along and dont read this. but i had to put it out here. i’ll keep this bit short. basically…joshua white and i had a fairly deep discussion wednesday afternoon and thought we’d share it with you. we talked about the issues most arent talking about right now re: haiti and helping. so here you go – our chat….
josh: there is a personal struggle as well. I think fear does still hold me back. For as “radical” as I want to be and can be sometimes, I still retreat to comfort. And I think the opposite of you, I think “generally” people could care less. Maybe I’m a pessimist, but the circles we run in AREN’T a reflection of society as a whole, you know?
tam: yah…i think we all want comfort. and i wouldn’t even call it our sinful nature. i think its natural…how life was intended during creation…but what i think we’ve done to it, with it, is hid behind it. we talk a lot. we promise a lot. but we do little. because if we actually do…we’ll have to follow thru. so, i think its less about comfort and more with laziness.
josh: You’re probably right
tam: i cant hide behind fear…none of us can. especially when it comes down to finances (for most of us) i cant say i cant give anything. i can go a week without buying mochas and give 15 bucks right there.
josh: I mean, I get being responsible, but is it more important to pay a bill on time or help others? Gah. So many questions.
tam: yes. both.
josh: I just need to get out of debt =)
tam: its important to pay your bills because thats your responsibility. God is not calling you to go back on your word and not pay your bills that you owe. but if you can be creative with cutting back a thing or two for a season, so you can give more, then do it. period. i don’t think its as difficult as people make it out to be
josh: Oo, I’m going to make you eat those words in a moment =)
tam: ok
josh: If someone in your family was sick and needed every ounce of money you had, wouldn’t you let a credit card bill or two go?
tam: i have. and i’ve regretted every day since then that we put ourselves in the position that we even had a maxed credit card we couldn’t pay because our kids got sick. ya see… it goes much deeper than just wanting to help. we need, and have needed to be, a lot more proactive and prepared for these times than we are.
josh: YES!!! That we definitely agree on
tam: i think this is a wake up call for believers world wide to get their junk together. while i’m certain that self reflection during these times is healthy and in order…we need to be careful that we don’t make it all about us. either in how we cant give or how much we can and do give. this isn’t about us. its always about others. and not in a ‘point out the log in the others eye’ kinda way. but about…really serving and sacrificing for others. and by sacrificing i don’t mean, and do not think God would support, we default on our responsibilities…at all…but if there are ways to sacrifice comforts without putting your own family and self in a similar predicament, then i say…do ALL you can.
josh: yeah. the bigger story here definitely seems to be to get our junk in order so we can be better equipped to be the Church we need to be
tam: yup. fully agree! like, a million percent. we all definitely need to do some housecleaning in all areas of our lives. so…you wanna start a mission to do that? maybe…a challenge – a call out?
josh: hell yeah =)
tam: lets do it! what a perfect time to bring self awareness to people.
josh: i couldn’t agree more
tam: i think the number one question to ask people is…are you prepared, personally and as a family, financially to help in times of crisis like this in haiti? why or why not? what can change? do you think there needs to be change? is it your responsibility? do you feel its a part of the great commission?
josh: I think we stumbled upon something so very important
tam: whats that?
josh: The idea that most people, at least those in our circles, WANT to do SO much, and it breaks their heart that they can’t for whatever reason (mine included). But they’re stuck in something, whatever it is, that keeps them from being able to act in a radical, Christ-centered way.
tam: so…in bringing awareness to others on how to recognize what is preventing them from helping?
josh: And by the way, your number one question was like five questions =) Yeah, I think people are content to continue living their lives, in the case of being financially chained down, people who will continue to use their credit cards to get points, yet never pay them off, have bill after bill after bill and never be concerned because they’re making it month to month… but when tragedy arises they’re left scratching the heads and butts… saying “I can’t do anything.”
tam: i know. shut it. and also… lets not discount those who pray. there are those who are called to be prayer warriors and those who honestly can do nothing more than pray.
josh: Absolutely. And I hope nobody thought I was today. My whole thing about saying “prayer isn’t enough” was indeed, solely about me.
tam: got it.
josh: I am not a prayer warrior, I’m a man of action =)
tam: because you know you can do more…i get that. totally.
josh: Because to me, saying “I prayed about it,” when I just spent money on coffee and an itunes album, is like saying “you’ve got this God… I’m cool here.”
tam: right. that makes sense. and thats what started that gut check…because i totally believe God was grabbing you and going, “nu-uh…not you!”
josh: I think god is up there wanting to become flesh again just so he can come down here and kick me in the junk
tam: nice!
josh: it’s like that conversation we had so long ago… God gives us abilities, gifts, and the heart to DO things
tam: that we have more power than we believe or use?
josh: yup
tam: yah…i “think” about that one all the time
alright then…lets do some ass kicking…starting with our own first. which i think we’re doing quite well already
josh: haha. We can be the People of Ass Kicking
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and lastly…a charge from josh…
If you are anything like us, then you feel this holy discontent to act. You may feel like you are being held captive by something in your life that is preventing you to be a radical change in the lives of people who need it most, I know I do. These things that hold us back are very real, and we have the responsibility to deal with them. Would you join me in dealing with them, so next time something like this happens, we can be better equipped to be an amazing agent for Christ? Let’s be the Church God so desperately wants us to be. Whether it’s financial, or something else that CAN be dealt with, let’s all pledge right now, right here, to start down the path to deal with it. Let’s not let another massive tragedy like this happen with us still unprepared. Let’s not let another child on a street downtown in your city go hungry another night because we didn’t have enough cash in our pocket to buy them a meal. It’s time we as Christians rise up, and make changes in our lives, correct the mistakes we’ve made in the past (in my case, financially), so we can finally be mobile and have the freedom to react.
A side note – I understand that some people truly cannot do much more than pray, for whatever reason. Understand I’m not calling you out, rather it’s the people who do have things in their lives that are holding them back from radical generosity that CAN be dealt with. There are some of you who are called to be prayer warriors, and I am so very thankful for you, because I am NOT one of those people. So thank you, and keep on praying. Add some prayers for the rest of us who feel a need to act into the mix, that we can get our households in order and be ready next time.